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	<title>Comments on: ActiveRecord behaviour with associations</title>
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	<description>Hobo - the web app builder for Rails</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Apolzon</title>
		<link>http://hobocentral.net/blog/2008/04/29/activerecord-behaviour-with-associations/comment-page-1/#comment-51933</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Apolzon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Another great ruby skills post!  I hope we can expect more of these in the future (obviously when yall have more time and ant busy with actually working on the hobo codebase)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Articles like this are what ruby/rails needs to lower the barrier of entry for newcomers.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great ruby skills post!  I hope we can expect more of these in the future (obviously when yall have more time and ant busy with actually working on the hobo codebase)</p>
<p>Articles like this are what ruby/rails needs to lower the barrier of entry for newcomers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ara Vartanian</title>
		<link>http://hobocentral.net/blog/2008/04/29/activerecord-behaviour-with-associations/comment-page-1/#comment-48888</link>
		<dc:creator>Ara Vartanian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Tom.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yeah, this is one of the things that drives me crazy about Rails and ActiveRec. I don&#039;t like the fact that DB calls happen silently in the background (and therefore fail silently in the background). There have been a couple of times where I&#039;ve had tables messed up with half-formed object graphs on account of it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It gets even better with the #build series of methods, where you can associate to a collection without any save at all. My only problem with #build is that it only allows me to pass in attributes for a new objects rather than to assign an existing object and postpone the save for later.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tom.</p>
<p>Yeah, this is one of the things that drives me crazy about Rails and ActiveRec. I don&#8217;t like the fact that DB calls happen silently in the background (and therefore fail silently in the background). There have been a couple of times where I&#8217;ve had tables messed up with half-formed object graphs on account of it.</p>
<p>It gets even better with the #build series of methods, where you can associate to a collection without any save at all. My only problem with #build is that it only allows me to pass in attributes for a new objects rather than to assign an existing object and postpone the save for later.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Van Dyk</title>
		<link>http://hobocentral.net/blog/2008/04/29/activerecord-behaviour-with-associations/comment-page-1/#comment-33574</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Van Dyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 20:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;http://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/ActiveRecord/Associations/ClassMethods.html has details on when things are saved.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Look down in the &quot;Unsaved objects and associations&quot; section.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/ActiveRecord/Associations/ClassMethods.html" rel="nofollow">http://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/ActiveRecord/Associations/ClassMethods.html</a> has details on when things are saved.  </p>
<p>Look down in the &#8220;Unsaved objects and associations&#8221; section.</p>
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		<title>By: solars</title>
		<link>http://hobocentral.net/blog/2008/04/29/activerecord-behaviour-with-associations/comment-page-1/#comment-32937</link>
		<dc:creator>solars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the nice writeup Tom :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I remember there was only little information about when things get saved, back when I started with rails.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the nice writeup Tom :)</p>
<p>I remember there was only little information about when things get saved, back when I started with rails.</p>
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