Comments on: Hobo != Scaffolding http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/ Hobo - the web app builder for Rails Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:47:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-51690 Anonymous Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:50:54 +0000 http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/#comment-51690 <blockquote> <p>assumption here: “users” need a hand crafted UI, while “administrators” can use an auto-generated UI</p> </blockquote> <p>In the PHP world, at least, I've seen plenty of apps that just depend on admins using phpMyAdmin on the DB...</p>

assumption here: “users” need a hand crafted UI, while “administrators” can use an auto-generated UI

In the PHP world, at least, I’ve seen plenty of apps that just depend on admins using phpMyAdmin on the DB…

]]> By: Brandon Zylstra http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-24197 Brandon Zylstra Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:33:58 +0000 http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/#comment-24197 <p>Regarding the integration of Hobo and ActiveScaffold, I'd be very interested in it, so let me give a few reasons why.</p> <p>First off, let me point out that (as you say) your purposes are different, and therefore it only makes sense that many people might want both what Hobo offers and what ActiveScaffold offers together.</p> <p>To be more specific, I'm very interested in using Hobo because of all it offers for front-end ease of development, but I really like several things about ActiveScaffold as well: 1. out of the box, without configuration it creates (in my opinion--and this could be because of my ignorance of Hobo) a better admin UI. It does cool stuff with relations (nested subforms) and so forth. This stuff really rocks. 2. it supports things that Hobo doesn't, like polymorphic associations, which I'm quite sure my current project will need at some point in the future. 3. the documentation appears to be (in my limited experience) more complete.</p> <p>This is not to knock Hobo. It really rocks in its own way, and does many of the things I always felt Rails ought to have available. In fact some of the things it does are things I thought to myself I'd build a plug-in for once I was sufficiently sophisticated in my Ruby & Rails skills. Then I discovered I didn't need to... and then I discovered limitations that led me to put my use of Hobo on hold for now.</p> <p>If I could use both ActiveScaffold and Hobo together, and if I wouldn't be stung by limitations like lack of support for polymorphic associations (it's hard to know what would happen if you use them, when the only thing you can find is that they're not supported), I'd be really happy about having the best of both worlds available in one single project.</p> Regarding the integration of Hobo and ActiveScaffold, I’d be very interested in it, so let me give a few reasons why.

First off, let me point out that (as you say) your purposes are different, and therefore it only makes sense that many people might want both what Hobo offers and what ActiveScaffold offers together.

To be more specific, I’m very interested in using Hobo because of all it offers for front-end ease of development, but I really like several things about ActiveScaffold as well:
1. out of the box, without configuration it creates (in my opinion–and this could be because of my ignorance of Hobo) a better admin UI. It does cool stuff with relations (nested subforms) and so forth. This stuff really rocks.
2. it supports things that Hobo doesn’t, like polymorphic associations, which I’m quite sure my current project will need at some point in the future.
3. the documentation appears to be (in my limited experience) more complete.

This is not to knock Hobo. It really rocks in its own way, and does many of the things I always felt Rails ought to have available. In fact some of the things it does are things I thought to myself I’d build a plug-in for once I was sufficiently sophisticated in my Ruby & Rails skills. Then I discovered I didn’t need to… and then I discovered limitations that led me to put my use of Hobo on hold for now.

If I could use both ActiveScaffold and Hobo together, and if I wouldn’t be stung by limitations like lack of support for polymorphic associations (it’s hard to know what would happen if you use them, when the only thing you can find is that they’re not supported), I’d be really happy about having the best of both worlds available in one single project.

]]> By: A Fresh Cup » Blog Archive » Double Shot #44 http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-19787 A Fresh Cup » Blog Archive » Double Shot #44 Mon, 31 Dec 2007 01:25:10 +0000 http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/#comment-19787 <p>[...] Hobo != Scaffolding - An attempt to explain the positioning of the Hobo extensions to Rails. [...]</p> [...] Hobo != Scaffolding – An attempt to explain the positioning of the Hobo extensions to Rails. [...]

]]> By: Cosmin Radoi http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-17150 Cosmin Radoi Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:17:47 +0000 http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/#comment-17150 <p>I was about to make a comment about pros and cons of starting to use Hobo but realized it slowly evolved into an analysis that I may want to adjust/expand so I've posted it on my blog instead: http://devanturat.primaevus.com/2007/12/01/hobo/</p> I was about to make a comment about pros and cons of starting to use Hobo but realized it slowly evolved into an analysis that I may want to adjust/expand so I’ve posted it on my blog instead:
http://devanturat.primaevus.com/2007/12/01/hobo/

]]> By: Tom http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-4593 Tom Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:58:28 +0000 http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/#comment-4593 <p>Hmmm - I've seen this a few times in Hobo apps too, so I think it is caused by Hobo, but I don't yet understand why. As a workaround, try moving app/models/friendship.rb out of you app into a safe place while you run the generator, then move it back.</p> Hmmm – I’ve seen this a few times in Hobo apps too, so I think it is caused by Hobo, but I don’t yet understand why. As a workaround, try moving app/models/friendship.rb out of you app into a safe place while you run the generator, then move it back.

]]> By: Victor http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-4448 Victor Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:38:57 +0000 http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/#comment-4448 <p>I am trying to use Hobo in a project. I want to generate scaffold code. (I do have hobo_model line in my models.) When I do ruby script/generate scaffold Friendship</p> <p>I got message dependency model The name 'Friendship' is reserved by Ruby on Rails. Please choose an alternative and run this generator again.</p> <p>Any model name I choose, it always say the same thing. Does hobo have something to do with this? Tom, do you have any idea what can cause this? Thanks.</p> I am trying to use Hobo in a project. I want to generate scaffold code. (I do have hobo_model line in my models.) When I do
ruby script/generate scaffold Friendship

I got message
dependency model
The name ‘Friendship’ is reserved by Ruby on Rails. Please choose an alternative and run this generator again.

Any model name I choose, it always say the same thing. Does hobo have something to do with this? Tom, do you have any idea what can cause this? Thanks.

]]> By: Evarist http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-3811 Evarist Wed, 30 May 2007 21:20:42 +0000 http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/#comment-3811 <p>I really love Hobo. It is to Rails as Rails is to Ruby. Every time I want to write some code it seems someone has written a tag I can use :)</p> I really love Hobo. It is to Rails as Rails is to Ruby. Every time I want to write some code it seems someone has written a tag I can use :)

]]> By: Tom http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-3691 Tom Mon, 28 May 2007 09:34:08 +0000 http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/#comment-3691 <p>Joshi. Have a read of the <a href="/blog/2007/01/25/what-is-hobo-2/" rel="nofollow">What is Hobo?</a> post to get an overview of Hobo's features.</p> <p>Hobo is really quite a different beast to both Streamlined and ActiveScaffold. But, compared to ActiveScaffold in particular, Hobo is at a fiarly early stage.</p> Joshi. Have a read of the What is Hobo? post to get an overview of Hobo’s features.

Hobo is really quite a different beast to both Streamlined and ActiveScaffold. But, compared to ActiveScaffold in particular, Hobo is at a fiarly early stage.

]]> By: Joshi http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-3668 Joshi Sun, 27 May 2007 23:50:00 +0000 http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/#comment-3668 <p>I am somewhat familiar with ActiveScaffold but I had never heard of Hobo until a few minutes ago. Hobo sure sounds something very very interesting. Tom, Can you please comment a little about how Hobo is different from ActiveScaffold and Streamlined? A short list of feature comparison would be great and probably help many people. I am a little confused about what features are provided by each of these out of box. </p> <p>Thanks a lot and keep up the great work.</p> I am somewhat familiar with ActiveScaffold but I had never heard of Hobo until a few minutes ago. Hobo sure sounds something very very interesting.
Tom,
Can you please comment a little about how Hobo is different from ActiveScaffold and Streamlined? A short list of feature comparison would be great and probably help many people. I am a little confused about what features are provided by each of these out of box.

Thanks a lot and keep up the great work.

]]> By: saket http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-3500 saket Thu, 24 May 2007 09:52:35 +0000 http://hobocentral.net/blog/2007/05/07/hobo-scaffolding/#comment-3500 <p>wow</p> wow

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